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I like and agree with William's distinction between effective and efficient access to markets. Most farmers engaged in any scale of commerce can sell through collectors and here again I agree that collectors play an invaluable role. They can be cut out but not their function. Someone has to do the collecting but the balance of power is definitely with the collector. The latter is the buyer only when he has also advanced credit to the small farmer, otherwise he is purely and simply an aggregator. My argument is based on a gross simplification of the distribution system as it does exist. In the chain from farmer to the retailer, the retailers often command the highest gross margins, followed by losses, wholesalers, collectors and then farmers. I am going to stick to my guns about market information systems in so far that they don't directly assist the farmer. However, systems can greatly assist retail buyers, wholesalers, transporters and collectors and anything that makes the system more efficient has to be welcomed since gains may well percolate down to the farmer. The reason for drawing the distinction is that nearly everywhere I go today, there are ever more sophisticated and expensive market price information systems being mooted in the name of the farmer. The public cost is thus seen as justifiable while there would be a greater emphasis on sustainability if it were recognised that the systems are for traders. In any case, I thought there was some degree of consensus earlier in the debate that the farmer especially the small farmer has very little choice as to who he will sell to due to credit and when he will sell due to poverty. Without good post harvest facilities or effective farmer organisations, there really is no choice here for the small farmer, he has to harvest and sell as soon as he can to relieve the cashflow pressures. What we have is a situation where in poor countries there are inefficient chains of distribution that result in over large ratios between farm gate and retail. The worst part of my experience has been that in most of the countries I have worked in recently they don't even know what the farmer is getting at farm gate. Therefore, they cannot really compare relative returns from different crops in gross or net terms. Hundreds of millions of dollars are being invested and there are calls for more money when few take the trouble to know what the farmer gets paid. Instead we want to supply the farmer with price information on what consumers are paying retailers or what wholesalers are paying other wholesalers at prices that bear no resemblance to what he is being offered or can demand. I also agree with Andrew Shepherd that caution is required in interpreting farmgate based data in that we must not jump to conclusions about exploitation. On a recent TA in India I was extremely impressed by the massive service sector that services agriculture and gathers produce from all corners of the country, bringing it to the market at low prices to urban consumers who too have hardly been rich in the past. The system is massive and awesome and most participants cannot be described as greedy. Yet purely on grounds of inefficiency and underinvestment it leads to ratios between farmgate and retail of over 1:10 up to 1:20 in some instances and that is very inefficient. There are too many participants making tight margins and incurring high real losses. The conclusion I draw is not the exploitation issue but rather that in such terrible inefficiency and deterioration of produce quality, there is a great deal of leeway of investing to make the system more efficient allowing higher farmer prices at the same time as leaving alone or hopefully lowering consumer prices. Central to trying to do this is to work on the entire chain in an integrated manner. The target should be to offer the farmer more choice by liberating him from the debt trap and working with the farmer to better meet market needs. To me that requires developing new parallel channels of distribution as well as some contract farming. The farmer should ideally own the aggregation and collection which brings us back to the need for very small farmers to work together. Best wishes, Vinay Chand, 230, Finchley Road, London NW3 6DJ, UK Tel: 44-20-7794 5977 Fax: 44-20-7431 5715 <address removed><mailto:<address removed>>
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