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I agree with Ms Wright's comments - we need to focus on the potential rather than get too bogged down in the detail. I read Ms Wright's piece on the 2 projects highlighted. I wanted to add that as country officer for the IAEA TC projects in Zambia, I visited Zambia last year and the FAO Rep confirmed that he wanted to do some studies on how the incidence of HIV was affecting the rural agriculture communities, particularly women. At present the incidence of HIV is about 18% in rural communities, as opposed to 35% in urban areas. I am aware that USAID are working with the National Aids Council in Zambia to combat the disease through the expansion of community and employer based programmes. Of course DFID Zambia also have some funds allocated for HIV/AIDs in Zambia, but I am unaware of the actual focus of this assistance. The trend is that in the agriculture communities, women have a very important to play when the main breadwinner falls seriously ill or dies from HIV/AIDs. It is important that measures are therefore put in place to help families and therefore communities that are very susceptible to the loss of one and quite possibly two breadwinners. It is always important to start from the grass roots level first, by trying to think of ways in which the local community can be protected and sustained with local produce - this is their main priority before deciding on whether crop x is going to sell for $50 or $150 on the international market. It is important to try our best to remove the first and sometimes more important constraints first (here HIV, nutrition and other health related diseases) before moving to the wider picture. Perhaps others have examples of small development programmes in this area and perhaps DFID can start from here or continue from here to the next stage, small enterprise development and creating marketing opportunities. Mr Abdul-Malik IAEA Austria -----Original Message----- From: jwright [mailto:<address removed> Sent: Monday, 10 May, 2004 17:16 To: <address removed> Subject: Intervention approaches, and unlocking the potential of agriculture In response to the discussion on 'the tragedy of the commons', I think this highlights the critical need for us to be aware that our interventions are based on our own values and perspectives. For example, some cultures and communities have their own enlightened mechanisms for control and regulation of the natural resource base for its sustainable management. Similarly, although some of us may view exploiting the NR base for our own individual needs as making 'good economic sense', again other cultures are very aware that it does not make sense for the survival and wellbeing of their societies. Whilst our interventions are introducing the concepts of individualism and neoliberalism, I and many others have encountered reactions of horror at these, amongst grassroots societies. Rather than promote these concepts in a vacuum, we could be suggesting them as one option, along with others, and at the same time promoting awareness of their consequences - both positive and negative - which we have learned through our own food and farming experiences. At a more general level, many of the debates in this conference seem to be getting caught up in the detail, detail which should be the prerogative of decision-makers in-country. Aren't we meant to be supporting and facilitating others to develop their own paths, through, for example, ensuring awareness of the full range of options available? In relation to this, if we want to 'unlock the potential' of agriculture, then we first need to be clear ourselves of just what that potential is. As long as we continue to see agriculture as just another industry producing marketable products then we are only seeing a small part of its potential. As Simon Maxwell pointed out in his early paper, times have changed and so has the situation. Change includes not only the growth of supermarkets, but also growth in local recognition of the failure of industrialised approaches to perform in fragile agroecosystems, in advances in ecological science, in understanding the implications of externalising production costs (on human and environmental health and therefore on public expenditure) and of the economic benefits of building local and bioregional complexity, and last but not least growth in empirical evidence of the success and benefits of small and medium scale agroecological farming systems. Following this, I would like to refer to two interesting projects we have been involved with which highlight the potential of agriculture. One project is on agricultural strategies to mitigate the impacts of HIV/AIDS, entailing the encouragement of grassroots, horizontal documentation, exchange conservation and use of local plant and animal genetic resources and associated local knowledge, as a means to improve nutrition, gain medicinal relief, and to some extent generate income. During our time in the field, in Southern Province, Zambia, we encountered a huge increase in confidence amongst local people to defend their 'traditional' knowledge and plant species as being more appropriate in their current adverse conditions of weakened health and vulnerable environment. Yet their realisation was limited by the dominant perspective of the public and private extension services which were still set on 'modern is best' approaches. This highlighted a huge need for increasing ecological literacy, not amongst the farming community itself as much as amongst the classically trained support sector. The second project we are currently working on is the achievement of Cuba to maintain and improve levels of food security throughout the 1990s, in the face of huge losses not only of agricultural input supplies and fuel but also of food imports. The main factor for Cuba's success in feeding its population through a semi-organic farming approach was a cohesive cross-sectoral policy to do so (ie. political will). Other factors included ensuring equitable distribution, prioritisation of domestic and diverse food production, investment in extension and training, increasing farmer incentives (financial, and access and control of land), increasing post-harvest efficiency, and selectivity over imports. Noteworthy was that the actual farming approach (whether industrialised or ecological) was of lesser importance to achieving food security, although nationwide organic production was both technically feasible and outperformed the industrial approach. The issue of ecological literacy arose again in the Cuban example, where professionals from other sectors were able to turn their hands to low-input and organic farming more rapidly and successfully than those who had been classically trained. Another interesting issue was that of the development of an eco-agricultural service provision industry, entailing the growth of small rural enterprise to provide biological inputs. If farmers are to be encouraged in sustainable practices then it needs to be made easy for them, or at least easier than less sustainable options, and having immediate access to biological inputs was one way to encourage this. 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